Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1975-06-17
- Live concert
- Grateful Dead
- DeadLists Project
AUD CM>DAT>CD> EAC> SHN; Recorded by Rob Bertrando: Sony ECM-280 mics
> Sony TC-152 SD cassette > playback on Nak Dragon > DAT; audience from
Winterland floor, about 30-35' back, just to the left of dead center;
via Alan Fink, Mark Ferguson
- 2004-04-27 16:51:40
- CM > DAT > CD > EAC > SHN
- San Francisco, CA
- Taped by
- Rob Bertrando
- Winterland Arena
Subject: Roll Away The Soundboard
Subject: Helps on the way
I personally love the idea of various tunes done instrumental.
"I love what I love
and I want it that way"
Subject: Great work and worth download
I disagree with previous reviewer comment. "I hope it's not Eyes of the World" heard before a unique Peggy-O, likely spoken by the deadicated taper who brings us this show, and knowing there's little tape left, only means he doesn't want to have a tape flip in the middle of a known long song.
Subject: Taper Banter & At a Siding?
In response to another reviewer's posting, I thought it was a little strange that the someone in the crowd wouldn't want to hear Eyes of the World. After listening w/ headphones, it appears that the coversation was by a Taper himself wanting a short song before Peggy because he only had about 10 min of tape left & his batteries were in need of a change. Another Taper (maybe Rob?) agreed to the same problem. The tape cuts right after Peggy just making it. Right after & before MAMU, it sounds as if the same mic holder is being complained to by a guy (in front) of him for sliding his equipment up too far.
As far as the music, isn't that Donna that joins late in SSDD ~7:00? And the best part of hearing this show, when I listen to Blues for Allah ~1:10-3:20, I'm reminded of the melody of what would eventually become the instrumental part of Terrapin, At a Siding, as in the Outtakes of 2-20-77, although not as masterful. So it looks like this little played song was not just left behind entirely, but built upon. I wonder if anyone else hears this?
Subject: Crazy Fingers
But it is totally unreal. Unlike anything the dead played before or since. Download this now.
Subject: yes, this is an awesome show
Subject: Last Blues For Allah
Subject: Almost nothing left to be said.
It's all about those choice moments you catch in an aud, as opposed to a soundboard.
ie: beginning of Peggy-O, before the music kicks in, you hear two guys chatting, and one says "hope it's not eyes of the world."
haha! This show is a must-download.
Subject: Great Aud
It seems a sad pattern with them - they dropped The Eleven and New Potato Caboose in 69, dropped Blues for Allah and Stronger than Dirt after 75, didn't play Help>Slip during 86-88, didn't play Lazy Lightning after 84, and didn't break out the Chain until Jerry was on death's door. All the most challenging (and some of the most satisfying) material was left unplayed for long stretches.
So, oh well, we only have 4 live performances of Blues for Allah and Stronger Than Dirt. I highly recommend getting, or at least streaming, them all. This recording is very good sound quality outside of a few brief dropouts. The performance of Blues>Drums>Dirt>Blues is stellar, as is the long Slipknot!, which got severely truncated on most of the 90's versions.
Subject: Pretty Peggy O
Subject: LIFE MAY BE SWEETER FOR THIS!!!!!!
Subject: Another SBD bites the dust
(Sigh!) Maybe there's some local band I can tape tonight from the board - if I don't get laughed out of the club for not having mikes. (Shuffles off...)
Subject: dirty turkey
But this is indeed a pivotal show, and it makes me wonder. All that Blues for Allah stuff, and the creation of some serious space jazz. But then Sugar Mag and US Blues kind of let you know that they're not gonna dig too deep for too long. As much as I always loved dancing to pop tunes, I was there to dive into the belly of the whale. I guess it's not a swim if you can't dry off, eh?
Subject: crazy fingers
Subject: Peggy O
Subject: Crazy Crazy Fingers
Crazy Fingers has the mellow post jam...wish it would have melted into something though...Don't like how it goes from trip-tonic Crazy Fingers into Beat It On Down the Line... and then Deal... It would have been sweet if Crazy Fingers just went to Peggy-O (don't know if there are any key issues with that transition, but the two vibes of both those versions would have created a solid heroin-sheek vibe--set the pace for the rest of the evening). Mellow.
(As a pointer the best Peggy-O ever is the London's Rainbow Theatre (March 21st, 1981))...knock you on the floor mellow.
Subject: Sound quality is great!!
Subject: Love this show
The recording: for this time period, I think it's quite good. Garcias guitar shines. You can hear the sound of Winterland on this one. Personally I don't think they get much better for this era. but that's me, I love Aud's that really seem to capture the whole feel of the show and this one does it.
Subject: Agreed with McJanks
Subject: Bob Fried Memorial Bogie
Like the SNACK concert earlier that year, I always enjoyed going to Grateful Dead concerts that I thought would be a little out of the ordinary, hoping the band be inspired by the change. I guess this show doesn't exactly qualify, since they were on an indefinite hiatus from performing as a group anyway. However, when we (I) saw the poster for the show we knew what "Jerry Garcia and friends" meant.
I'd also like to say that Keith and band cooked! This was a nice surprise.
Subject: very nice
Subject: Bob Freed Memorial Concert
Subject: high 4
Subject: My First Show
Subject: download this...
Subject: I KNOW LOTS OF STUFF ABOUT STUFF AND STUFF
Subject: SOUND QUALITY SUCKS
Subject: First Set Madness...
With the first Crazy Fingers ever, and man they came out swinging for the fences!! Dreamlike, serene, everything you ever wanted. The jam in the BIODTL and Big River are strong and the band keeps playing hardball. For a long time I thought this was the first Peggy O ever...but i guess not? Either way it's not particularly a fav...but the chill style this night is akin to the mellow of the Crazy F. But to skip ahead...
The debut of Help on the Way. No lyrics yet either. Just a jam.
Slipknot! also debuts somewhere in there too.
And the first Franklin's Tower, which in all honesty hadn't obtained the mastery it later would, but is nonetheless a strong first showing. I suppose this is really what makes my point about the Help jam because for the being the debut it rages incredibly hard.
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